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Big Brother 13 Jeff’s Homophobic Rant. Again?

First – Let’s begin with a word for word transcription of the incident.

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Date: 7-12-2011 Time: 6:46 PM BBT Camera: Quad
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Kalia tells the HGs that J.K Rowling announced that the character of Dumbledore from Harry Potter was written to be gay.

Jeff: That would be perverted.
Kalia: …have a gay character for kids to understand homosexuality…
Jeff: How was he meant to be gay? He doesn’t have any gay tendencies.
Kalia:…well maybe that’s the whole point, to teach you that…
Jeff: Hey Harry! Let me feel your balls. (Laughs)
Kalia: …for people like you who think that stereotypes around gay people!
Jeff: What do you mean “stereotypes around gay people?!?” He’s in a school with little kids! You don’t wanna make that guy gay!
Kalia: WHAT?!?!? WHY?!?!
Jeff: What do you mean why?
Kalia: Gay men can’t work with little kids?
Jeff: Um..I don’t think it’s very..I don’t think it’s the right thing to have a little kid’s book and have the headmaster that you’re locked away with in a magical land be gay. I don’t think that’s the write kind of writing to do.
Kalia: I don’t see why not.
Jeff: I can see your PC view of why not. But I don’t think it’s the right thing to do. (Kalia is still confused) OK listen. You know exactly what I’m saying Ok, don’t make it seem like you’re doing the right thing by saying that it’s not. You’re gonna let a storybook of where they go away to fantasy camp and its all little kids…without their parents and the guy is gay?
Kalia: …just because he’s gay doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with him…
Jeff: Get the fuck outta here.

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That’s pretty much the gist of what most are calling a homophobic rant. Plenty of former Big Brother HGs took to twitter to voice their opinions:

@marqueemarc Eh… Homophobia & racist remarks always turn up during #BB season. It amazes me that some HGs seem to get away w/it & which ones do. M*

@StevenfromBB10 Will all the #bb13 fans please tell @CBSBigBrother to STOP PUTTING HOMOPHOBES LIKE @jeffschroeder23 into the house! RT

@TooMuchLydia4U It’s sad n disappointing that Jeff didn’t learn his lesson in #bb11, said such awful hurtful things about gays #bb13 #equality4all

@KCampbellicious “Gays shouldn’t be around kids in school” Isn’t homophobia soooo cuuuute? #BB13. #CBSBigBrother

…and quite a few others. The incident sparked heavy controversy on twitter and message boards. Some say this is a flat out homophobic rant (like me) while others are saying he was simply disagreeing with the idea of a character in a kid’s book being homosexual (which I think is equally homophobic)….

What do you think?

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Tophers Note: I know this site tends to be irreverent at times, but this is a serious subject, so please keep it some what classy. I will be quick to delete comments.

As for my take on it. This whole thing saddens me, I really like Jeff and always thought he had a good heart. I guess I still do, he is just ignorant on this issue. I hope he learns and grows from this. But hey, at least he is still nice to look at.

46 Responses to Big Brother 13 Jeff’s Homophobic Rant. Again?

  1. Jeffro July 13, 2011 at 8:38 am #

    OMFG! Why is it when someone speaks his mind it’s “homophobic” or any other fucking thing, but ion the other side it “freedom of speech”?

    Fucking ridiculous that a man can’t have the right and freedom to speak what he feels and all the queers get upset.

    I have no fear of homos, as the term homophobic suggest, I have a disgust with them

  2. Anom July 13, 2011 at 8:54 am #

    As a Christian, I believe that homosexuality is a sin; however it is equally important to remember that God sees ALL sin equal. I.e., when I eat too much (gluttony) or if I have an affair (adultry) that is sin also. We all struggle with our own personal sins…and we shouldn’t judge others.

  3. Christy July 13, 2011 at 9:18 am #

    I like Jeff..I liked Kevin..I even liked Lydia on her good days..but please explain to me why Jeff has just turned into the most evil of mankind because he had an opinion?? None of the houseguests that are taking to twitter with their disgust for him being so “hateful” can go back to their seasons and find 5 minutes worth of audio where they weren’t being disgustingly hateful towards someone else..whether is be because of the pimples on their face, Jordon gaining weight, someone’s cackling laugh etc. So I say to them..pot meet kettle.. We are all judgmental..no one is 100% tolerant..I commend Jeff for standing up for what he believes in..even if he’s not “politically correct”..

  4. prettyplainjo July 13, 2011 at 10:11 am #

    I think you people are very confused by this post. Yes, Jeff had an opinion. No one is discounting that and he is absolutely allowed to have an opinion. ANd equally – I am allowed to be offended by his opinion, since his opinion was rather offensive. By every definition of the word, Jeff’s rant was homophobic.

  5. Anonymous July 13, 2011 at 10:12 am #

    Jeffro, you need to be filled in on the definition of homophobia. Here it is:

    Homophobia=Irrational fear, aversion, hatred and/or discrimination against homosexuality/homosexuals.

    It’s irrational to have such an aversion towards gay people. If the very thought of someone being gay gives you “disgust”, then you’re not rational. That’s where the term comes from.

    Anom, gluttony, adultery are harmful. Being gay is not harmful and being gay is who people are as human beings, it isn’t an ACTION like pigging yourself.

    Jeff is entitled to his homophobic opinion and he is being condemned accordingly. Being anti-gay is wrong.

  6. prettyplainjo July 13, 2011 at 10:13 am #

    …AND just as King Master Jeff gets to have an opinion, so do I.

  7. Francis July 13, 2011 at 10:13 am #

    Jeffro, you need to be filled in on the definition of homophobia. Here it is:

    Homophobia=Irrational fear, aversion, hatred and/or discrimination against homosexuality/homosexuals.

    It’s irrational to have such an aversion towards gay people. If the very thought of someone being gay gives you “disgust”, then you’re not rational. That’s where the term comes from.

    Anom, gluttony, adultery are harmful. Being gay is not harmful and being gay is who people are as human beings, it isn’t an ACTION like pigging yourself.

    Jeff is entitled to his homophobic opinion and he is being condemned accordingly. Being anti-gay is wrong.

  8. prettyplainjo July 13, 2011 at 10:15 am #

    Nice comment Francis. I believe James Rhine described Jeff as looking “possessed” during this rant on twitter last night. I would def call that “irrational fear.” Especially because the character in question is fictional.

  9. Francis July 13, 2011 at 10:16 am #

    Oops, sorry for the double post.

    And prettyplainjo, I’m pretty sure the three posters above actually agree with Jeff. The sad part is that people like Jeff and the first three commenters actually feel self-entitled and believe their positions are not homophobic. They think it’s just OK to basically call gay people pedophiles. It’s really pathetic.

  10. Jeffro July 13, 2011 at 10:26 am #

    Leave it to the queers to add the other bullshit to a “phobia” when the word itself MEANS fear of. Nothing else. That definition is a fucking crock. I don’t discriminate from heights or do I have a hatred for it, I fear it. Nothing else just like the word suggest “AcroPHOBIA” Just like I don’t fear the queers, I just find them repulsive.

    So then, if you don’t like what I say, you are, in your terms” a “hetrophobic” correct? this whole arguement is moronic at best.

  11. prettyplainjo July 13, 2011 at 10:30 am #

    I would say I phobic of compulsory hetero normativity….but I’m not heterophobic. And here’s a tip for you: Once you start talking like that your entire argument loses all credibility because you just wind up looking like an ass.

  12. Jeffro July 13, 2011 at 10:31 am #

    now if you want to call me a bigot, go ahead, that I am. I am NOT a HOMOPHOBIC

  13. BD in NYC July 13, 2011 at 10:32 am #

    “I don’t fear the queers, I just find them repulsive.”

    Methinks the lady Jeffro doth protest too much…

    Anyone else familiar with the study that found the most virulently homophobic “straight” identifying men to be the ones most turned on by gay porn?

    I bet we’d find a stack of old Honcho magazines and Jeff Stryker movies in Jeffro’s closet.

    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-big-questions/201106/homophobic-men-most-aroused-gay-male-porn

  14. BigKenny July 13, 2011 at 10:37 am #

    As a gay man, I do feel disgusted by what Jeff said, even though he and Jordan are my favorites from their season on BB. However, Jeff has a right to speak his opinion but he should’ve toned it down. I know alot of gay men and lesbians that are teachers and are openly gay. They have taken their class to many many many day and overnight trips; and they have shown nothing but respect and protected their students. Also as a big fan of the Harry Potter movies and books, yes Dumbledore was originally to be gay, but also remember…it’s a fantasy story people! My advice to Jeff is please think before you speak and remember, not all gays and lesbians are predators or pedophiles. I think you’re a great competitor but choose your words wisely and do not condemn gays and lesbians before you really get to know us. I cannot speak for all homosexuals, but you might be surprised on how respectful and tactful some of us really live our lives. Thank you for listening.

  15. prettyplainjo July 13, 2011 at 10:38 am #

    BD in NYC – you mean Jeffro’s got a hard on for Jeff? Oh absolutely.

  16. Francis July 13, 2011 at 10:43 am #

    Pretty, Jeff definitely looked possessed. Honestly, it was scary. The anger in his voice and in his eyes, you can literally see the hate and resentment dripping from him. It makes you wonder how people could become so hateful.

    Jeffro, I don’t think anyone has said anything negatively about heterosexuality. Being anti-straight is as irrational as being anti-gay.

    Nothing moronic about a medical term and definition. Homophobia is not purely fear, and if you were educated at all, which you clearly are not, you would know this. The #1 trait of homophobia is irrational negativity against gay people, and you’re filled with it Jeffro, with your anger and lack of coherency.

  17. FormerOutcast July 13, 2011 at 10:59 am #

    Not understanding all of the outrage. Were Jeff’s statements maybe ignorant and maybe insensitive? Yes. Did he apologize to Kalia later explaining his kerfuffle during BB11 and say she was right and he was wrong? Yes. An aversion to an author propagandizing the so-called benignity of homosexuality to young children isn’t completely ridiculous. Jeff’s statement about Dumbledore “not having any gay tendencies” is a good point in that J.K. Rowling outed the character as gay after the books had been written and published. There was really no point in doing that other than as a publicity stunt to garner support from a possibly neglected fan base, and cause false outrages such as this one. What truly irks me is that no one on these blogs wants to confront Kalia referring to Keith as an “Uncle Tom” for dating white girls exclusively and choosing not to go to a black university, or Porsche telling Keith and Brenden that her Dad would “kill her” for dating a black guy because “he’s from Michigan.” Or heck, any number of ignorant comments she and the other houseguests have already made.

  18. Francis July 13, 2011 at 11:08 am #

    The outrage is Jeff saying it’s perverted that the headmaster be gay in Harry Potter because gay people are bad influences for kids/are pedophiles. What I don’t understand is how people do NOT understand the outrage.

  19. FormerOutcast July 13, 2011 at 11:15 am #

    Also, let us not start trying to out Jeffro up there. How is calling him gay for his apparent homophobia (even if he can’t admit it) any less ignorant that what Jeff Schroder said? So there’s a study.. ummm? There is a study for anything to support a fallacious point. See the Well of Despair, or the Stanford Prison Experiment, or the Milgram Study, or more to the point, the case of David Reimer.

  20. Anonymous July 13, 2011 at 11:17 am #

    Jeff was basically saying thy all gay men are child molesters and should be around kids.

    thats the issue with the comments.

  21. prettyplainjo July 13, 2011 at 11:20 am #

    FormerOutcast – Jeffro’s comments were flat out ignorance and can be responded to as such. Also that was a little thing called humor, which is at least a step up from pure hatred. As far as the blunders other HGs are making, they are surely not going unnoticed. The Jeff thing is becoming a big deal because this is his second major infraction and he is America’s Sweetheart. I think those that are offended simply want to make it clear that this man that America loves to stroke so much has royally screwed up with another sect of the population. The story is already ganing national attention. Its a big deal.

  22. Amanda July 13, 2011 at 11:22 am #

    So it’s not okay for a gay male headmaster to be around young boys, but it’s totally fine for a straight male headmaster to be around young girls? I just feel like what Jeff was saying was implying that he thought gay people are predatory perverts who will abuse children. And THAT is not right in my eyes.

  23. Thomas Emory July 13, 2011 at 11:24 am #

    The guy has an opinion so let him speak it without criticism. I don’t like cucumbers. Go on. Judge me.

  24. FormerOutcast July 13, 2011 at 11:25 am #

    The part of the outrage that I don’t understand specifically, Francis, is that this is reality TV game show contestant. Not the Secretary of Education. People with opinions like Jeff are cast to cause this kind of controversy within the game on purpose. Calling on CBS to stop casting people like that would be defeating the purpose of the human experiment element of Big Brother. Accept his apology to Kalia as your own and enjoy the rest of the summer.

  25. FormerOutcast July 13, 2011 at 11:36 am #

    Sorry, prettyplain. But tasteless jokes made out of frustration in response to ignorance doesn’t excuse hypocrisy.

    Also, it’s really not a “big deal.” A reality tv game show contestant making ignorant and borderline abusive statements when one of the main elements of the game is to be in close quarters with people of opposing viewpoints simply cannot hold a candle to true human suffering and abuse. Simple as that. I don’t know what to say to you if you feel terrorized, abused, or maligned because a reality tv star said something ignorant about a character in a fantasy novel.

  26. Andy July 13, 2011 at 12:03 pm #

    Well, Jeff does make himself sound like a moron here but if you read the books and then hear that bit of information it is A LITTLE disturbing…considering that Dumbledore frequently invited Harry to his office at SUPER weird hours of the night…ALONE…and then proceeded to knock him out in the Pensive Glass for hours at a time…ALONE…and oh by the way he is a gay man. 1st that is inappropriate for ANYONE working for kids but then if you don’t want to propagate a controversy why make it that way in the first place or at the very least make someone else gay not the guy who is locked ALONE in his office with a student ALL THE TIME… just something to think about I guess.

  27. Ann July 13, 2011 at 1:23 pm #

    Simple….just because you’re gay doesn’t mean you’re a pedofile! i like jeff and i understand where is was coming from but his words i dont think came out the way they were supposed to.

  28. chris July 13, 2011 at 2:36 pm #

    Jeff’s stupidity is only outdone by his girlfriend. Also, how was Dumbledore gay? Yeah I can’t say for sure he was straight either. I, also, cannot say he wasn’t a necrophiliac or hermaphrodite. I don’t get it.

  29. katibug July 13, 2011 at 3:35 pm #

    I dont understand how someone’s moral stance on something can be considered ignorant. But that’s just me…

  30. prettyplainjo July 13, 2011 at 4:11 pm #

    It is true, Jeff is just another schmuck with no real important place in the world. And it is perfectly fine if his comments didn’t offend you. But they offended a lot of people and those people are allowed to be offended. Just like Jeff is allowed to have his opinion. Just like I was allowed to write this blog. I just think it is weird that the guy goes and says something and it offends people…but instead of just shutting up and respecting the fact that those people were offended, Jeff’s supporters need to put down those people or try to defend what he said. That’s the part that really makes zero sense to me.

  31. Anonymous July 13, 2011 at 4:16 pm #

    Why would Dumbledore be gay? Does he have sex in any of the movies or books? To come out (pardon the expression) and say that he is gay is only to promote some sort of agenda. Rowling made his orientation relevant and by doing so proved her own “homophobia”. Otherwise, why is it worth a mention?

  32. Anonymous July 13, 2011 at 4:18 pm #

    Hey prettyplain, why aren’t Jeff’s supporters allowed to be offended that other people were offended by Jeff’s comments?

  33. prettyplainjo July 13, 2011 at 4:26 pm #

    I am “allowed” to jump into a pool filled with sharks. But I am smart enough not to.

  34. BD in NYC July 13, 2011 at 5:44 pm #

    FormerOutcast – I’m not going to address Jeff’s comments on Big Brother, but I will address Jeffro’s comments on this here blog-thingy, which you also tacitly defended by saying it was wrong to mock him.

    Jeffro said (twice!) that he did not “fear” “homos” and “queers”, but that he had “disgust” for them and found them “repulsive.”

    And my joking response was “tasteless”? You and I live in different realities if you truly believe that. I hope you and Jeffro are very happy together when you get married in Provincetown and settle down with two adopted puggles. (That was a joke, too. Hope it’s not too tasteless for you.)

  35. Rocker July 13, 2011 at 6:14 pm #

    Why would Jeff be so stupid? prettyplain is smart. Jeff shouldn’t have said those things. If i were in the house, i would have voted himm out just for that. Also, Dumbledore is FICTIONAL!. He isn’t real!. Plus, it isn’t disturbing that he needs to tell Harry how to save the world at noght. That just gaurantees that they won’t be overheard. Finally, Dumledore is asexual. Rowling said that, after Grindlewald-who he had feelins for-murdered his sister, he stopped trusting that part of himself and gave up on all romantic interests

  36. KTJAMS July 13, 2011 at 7:00 pm #

    My Grandfather, my Uncle, my two brothers, my nephew, and me have all served this country to preserve the right of every citizen to be able to voice their opinion, to pray as they wish or not at all, and to love whomever they want. Please don’t criticize any one who has the strength to exercise that freedom, especially if it a position you may not agree with. The power to think, speak, question, and debate ideas and opinions is what makes us great.

  37. prettyplainjo July 13, 2011 at 7:05 pm #

    Thank you for your support KTJAMS.

  38. Randy July 13, 2011 at 8:57 pm #

    Based on what he understood Jeff is exactly right even if he couldn’t express himself properly. Of course, there isn’t really any indication in the books that he’s gay, so it’s really a moot point. But based on what Jeff understood, he’s correct to be negative about the concept.
    In a children’s book you shouldn’t be pushing “gay” or “straight” or any sexuality whatsoever. The problem in this country is that “gay” is a label for a person, but it really just refers to someone’s love life, which to be honest doesn’t need to be celebrated or reviled. Acting like it’s okay to push any sexuality on children, no matter the pretenses is just plain wrong, no matter what your own personal agenda may be.

  39. prettyplainjo July 13, 2011 at 9:24 pm #

    Randy – I’m sorry but I have to disagree. Especially with gay marriage being approved in state after state, the gay family as a unit is going to become more commonplace meaning that children are going to have to under stand why little Sally has two moms or two dads just like she might wonder why little Jimmy has one mom and no dad. The idea of opening up children to different kinds of families and lifestyles has always been a staple in children’s literature and J.K Rowling is neither the first nor the last to introduce the concept. Also, I personally feel that being gay is more than just a sexual preference at this point. It is a lifestyle. And if little Jimmy wants to know why he wants to kiss little bobby and not little susie, then he should be able to understand it and not feel ashamed by it.

  40. Who cares July 13, 2011 at 9:28 pm #

    How is being anti-gay or even pro-gay wrong? Last time I checked the first amendment protected our right to free speech. And last time I checked everyone in this damn country is entitled to their own thoughts and opinions no matter what the topic of discussion is. So what’s the big freaking deal? Anti-gay/pro-gay or neither one it’s an opinion which you me and the other millions of people in this country are entitled to so suck it up, get over it, and move on. It’s a fact of life it’s always going to be around just like racism it’s been around since our country was formed. This is so dumb to even be getting ticked off about grow up it’s a fact of life

  41. prettyplainjo July 13, 2011 at 9:46 pm #

    Who Cares – But, as you just so eloquently stated – it’s my right as an American to get ticked off and voice my opinion. Get over it.

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